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  1. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    you were busy, no biggie
  2. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    So who do you think is scum?

    Also is it even humanly possible to sleep for 15 hours?
  3. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    if your solve is Rock/Future then you are wrong. Why did you go from leaning BD to thinking im scum again?
  4. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Why do you go back and forth on me MTR?
  5. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Im not scum... and would also prefer not to die.
    yet I'm not scum but you continue to push there. + its only you and listo that continue to scum read me so I'm not really consensus. Why is it ok for you to not want to bleed but you expect me to be bleed/lynched?
  6. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    bleed BN and occupy Sats?
  7. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    1 Prince
    ?????

    1+ Sheriff
    Morrison

    7-8 Additional Blue Dragon Members
    val
    mat
    3pup (before he was recruited)
    rock
    xan
    mtr
    ???
    ???

    2 Unseen
    ???
    ???

    1 Neutral Killing
    nightingale

    2-3 Other Neutrals
    jack
    cwe (apparently)
  8. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    correct. MM and assassin
  9. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    oh i read that wrong lol
  10. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    if I was the MM I couldn't have recruited but I wasn't that to begin with
  11. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Known: Rock is not assassin or convert,
    Do we know in fact if there was a convert? If the was and scum is future/satsu then you or BN is the convert
  12. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Rock, just a gut feeling
    Shouldn't we be beyond gut at this point?
  13. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    why not bleed CWE?
  14. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    I don't think my claim would really make BN and Listo go "oh my God I finally see the light" or anything but if we were to massclaim the point wouldn't be to validate myself its just that for me there are some unknows and I'm curious about BN, Sats and Listo's roles and actions but on 2nd thought its prob not a good idea. Mass claiming when the game is close is normal in my neck of the woods.

    I'd lean Future since that's what we all agree on.
  15. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    should we mass claim?
  16. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    What do you have against feudal Japanese warriors, Sats?
  17. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    I guess listo is pushing a future/rock team and me voting Satsu might feed into that but then we could just lynch Future and be done with that nonsense
  18. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    and not only did my scum team kill Xan but we bleed the only guy town reading me. Like do you 2 honestly believe that me and my scum team leave you, BN, and Future all alive?

    like I said it's prob just a town win anyways but I'd rather not get voted out b/c I accidentally hurt a guys feelings and voted the other one
  19. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    there also seems to be some false info out there or something. I was told that prince had some info that didn't clear me or made them think I was scum or something
  20. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    I couldn't bleed MTR if I wanted to, plus if I were to kill MTR I wouldn't delay it, I would do it as a night action. This isn't the strongest argument but I rather not die slowly because of a parental grudge
    we could just kill the MM today and I can be confirmed town since you seem unwilling to move on, listo
  21. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    of the 7 of us I think Satsu and Future are doing the least besides maybe CWE but I guess we are going with not unseen b/c he doesn't lie and ok?. I just kinda think you and listo are prob just town. I think it makes zero sense that a scum Rock would leave 3 people alive that were willing to vote him so I could kill...Xan? I know its impossible for me to be the killer so you could make the argument that that argument wouldn't make sense but then you would be accusing my scumbuddy of gamethrowing.


    I'm sorry if you felt like I was making fun of you guys but lets not venge vote someone based on a misinterpreted post
  22. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    oh i thought there was more
  23. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    what does it say?
  24. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Vote: Satsu

    good luck guys whatever you choose
  25. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Why do I even post?
  26. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    If you actually wanted me to reply to that I will but I'm going to not waste my time and lynch scum.
  27. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    You certainly aren't treating me in good faith so why should I give you the benifit of the doubt?
  28. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Also, I was kinda pissed off when you laughed off my vote, though less pissed just thought you were scum. lol
  29. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    You just lead a scum lynch, you have a ton of clout and if you wanted you and BN could certainly get me lynched. So my sin buddy kills...Xan?

    but like I said its prob just an auto town win anyways.
  30. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    I feel like this is 70% of mafia games I play in where the town is just at each other's throats while the scum team sits in the background.
  31. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    only takes 1 scum to win. Is bussin never done on this site or something? It's maybe not the most probable thing wich is why I'm not pursuing your lynch but I don't think it's not impossible, IMO.
  32. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    I didn't like how you lied about Jack and tried to manipulate us into his lynch when he was bleeding to death. I also didn't like how you tried to defend yourself as not unseen when none of those reasons were accurate. Also you think im scum anyways. lol
  33. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    I don't fully trust BN and Listo but I think its just a Future/Satsu team prob
  34. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Even if I were to get mislynched today I think that town would still be in an ok place. If MTR kills one of Future/Satsu today we'd go in 2/1/1 so I think its auto town win? Though would be super disappointing to get lynched over scum that lurked into today.

    Honestly, shocked I'm not dead.
    scum need you to be useful today.
  35. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    I see no reason to argue with you, if you arent giving me any inclination that you are town and can be trusted.
    See the thing is that if you were interested in "giving me any inclination that you are town and can be trusted" you are going to have to use your words and have a conversation but shutting down and going "nope!" is either really scummy or super unhelpful. but sure, let's talk about our interactions!

    on d1 I said that Robo isn't my king and then I clarified that I distrusted him.

    You then, for some unknown reason, ignored that. I then lightly mocked/side eyed you with "It's like you got to that post and just stopped reading. I think my explanation in 178 is perfectly fine or do you not think so?" What you said earlier is that I was scummy for being combative at people for not agreeing with me and I fail to see how I'm being combative @ you when you weren't disagreeing with me?. Now maybe I was a bit annoyed that you ignored my explanation but that's not the same thing as getting mad at you for not agreeing with me.

    You then followed it up with "d1 isn't the best time to remove the king and blind vote someone new king."

    and like no one was suggesting that. My post literally said "He's not getting lynched today and that's fine" It's like you were talking at me but not actually paying attention to what was being said.

    Its definitely something ive seen scum!BN do before

    Here's town Xan talking about how this could be scum posting from you. :)

    I think being cheeky and voting sleep within half an hour of d2 starting was hilarious. I mean, maybe people felt like I was mocking them but that was never my intention.

    I didn't really like your reply in 296 which basically said that I wasn't putting any effort into the game and just kinda ignoring my d1 contributions. Especially when you said "Is there anyone you are sus of?" and I was just kinda like *facepalm* Like I know you did say that you said my Morrison push was bad and ineffective, other than him being town, yes but the point was that I was actively using my voice and vote and its d1 so it's not like there's much to push on besides activity. So it felt pretty odd that you'd kinda act like I'd been doing none of that. I know you clarified/backtracked that it was ONLY about d2 but even then it just feels disjointed.

    I mean maybe in some twisted reality you could say that I'm being combative with you b/c I'm not agreeing with the untrue things you are saying about me but you are also doing this weird goalpost move from "combative with people that don't agree with me." to "I don't like your interactions with you."
  36. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    I feel rock is sus and he hasnt given me a reason to think he's town.
    I asked you yesterday to give me examples of me getting mad at people for not agreeing with me and even if that was true (wich its not) why would scum do that?
  37. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Is the primary argument against 3pups his night actions?


    Right now my trust list, is more of a trust listo.
    I don't fully trust Mazer b/c he did lightly defend/stall a 3pup lynch. The last sentence in the first quote and the last quote makes me think his plan is to just follow Listo around.
    My reservation with 3 pups, and I apologize if I've missed something, but I'm not sure what motivation he would have had to come out with a false claim at this point.

    What do you feel his motivation was for needing to make a claim then?

    thx. I'm not trying to throw a wrench in. the d1 claim is still interesting, but the thought of the n1 conversion makes sense. If 3 puppies, is in fact converted, the mind goes certain places fo other possibilities.

    Listo-no major changes in your earlier thoughts/reads?
  38. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    you trust the two people that are willing to follow you. How convenient. Satsu needs to talk more about his thoughts on the game, as does future.

    What pings you about me and Future.
  39. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Whats future based on?
  40. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    is there any reason to believe that your scum read on me is anything more than rage fueled OMGUS?
  41. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    oh so that's where the red stain on my carpet came from
  42. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    could be an invest but its not a fib if he's unseen and knows you aren't on his team.
  43. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    he could still say that as unseen so im not sure how that makes him BD.
  44. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    he claimed protective yesterday, and then later said that he has protected you both nights instead of the other protective which is ??? Listo is inferring that he's a knight, was recruited and then used frenzy to kill Nightengale.
  45. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    he claimed d2, not today
  46. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    And you've been combative about things when people didnt agree with you
    Can you quote some examples b/c I don't think this is true? Maybe you are trying to claim that me questioning people's logic for scum reading a slot that I know can't be scum is "being combative", if so that's really not the same thing as "being combative when people don't agree with you." but I don't think I've ever lashed out at disagreeing with me.

    but I guess laughing the vote off and being a jerk and then threatening to venge action town is the proper response.

    You remind me of this guy that used to scumread me all the time for the most inane reasons.
  47. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Yay! Town gets one less use. Great job, that.
  48. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    does occupying me prevent me from using my role?
  49. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    don't really like the "I don't like rock" with no reason but eh. I'll just claim out like everyone else and listo and BN can have egg on their faces. 3pups targeting Mazor over a claimed doc is ????

    Vote: 3puppers
  50. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    oh i was looking at the wrong one lol
  51. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Scorned lose their passive if they are attacked 2 nights in a row. So couldn't she just have been shot t n1 and then again on n2 without the use of frenzy?
  52. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    is today our only day to nominate a king? If the king loses his or her original role then we should vote someone with a not great role but that requires a mass claim and we shouldn't do that.
  53. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    I obviously don’t trust Rock right now.
    other than me calling you scum and voting you yesterday, any reason why?
  54. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Jack bled to death last night b/c it was 2 nights after he was stuck. Listo thought he would die n3.
  55. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Why are you asking about dead players?
  56. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    I'd be down with that. Don't really understand the suspicion that's coming my way but w/e.
  57. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    We don't have to elect a king? I guess going no king and not risking electing an unseen would be a decent play.
  58. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Besides myself, I low key think

    2. 3puppies
    3. BlindNinja
    4. CWE
    8. MTR
    15. Xanjori

    no great reasoning, just gut. Though CWE is the lowest of them b/c I think someone said he's more active as town.
  59. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    but lets pick our king first then we can argue about who to lynch
  60. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    or you recruited on n1 instead of killed?
  61. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    I don't trust any of your "confirmed info" b/c you lied about Jack. Even if as you say the unseen didn't know that the king was unseen that doesn't mean you can't be unseen or the other 3rd party
  62. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    that's not really how it works
  63. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    yes, blame the mod instead of just reading the new abilities/mechanics or you could have just been lying
  64. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Oh also, From what I know, Jack won't die tonight even if the bleed is real.
    like you either have bad info or you were just being manipulative to get a jack lynch. I trust nothng you say.
  65. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    that you wanted to vote Jack over unseen? really makes me think that you can't be unseen
  66. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    tell me more!
  67. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    oh noes, someone that I think is scum doesn't want town to be on the throne.
  68. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Was going to suggest matt as king but obviously can't do that mow. I'd volunteer to be kind b/c I'm town. I kinda think MTR is town.
  69. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    pretty sure that Nitengale did say they had a post restriction and the mod removed the rule
    FIFY!
  70. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    pretty sure that Nitengale did say they had a post restriction and the mAttach filesod removed the rule
  71. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Robo could be scum but I'm not a big fan of removing him. listo has alot of info.....
  72. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    as I don't see anyone else coming out and sharing info about their actions. I thought that was what we were supposed to do in order to try to identify scum.
    there's not really a right or a wrong way to play mafia. There's nothing wrong with sitting back and letting night actions do the work although I think that's mostly unreliable. I'm sure that in the history of mafia, there have been games solved by na's alone. Day play also impacts night action choice unless every action is purely random. If someone were to make a venn diagram there'd be an overlap between good town pr play and good scum play.
  73. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Wait, this one was at me.


    Back to my earlier answer


    The same reason I didn't say anything to anyone. I wasn't here.

    What would be the advantage of waiting? You either made an easy out or you didn't. Which was it?
    I'm a little confused. You said I was going for easy inactives. I asked you why you didn't call me out and you said it was because you were not here. Maybe not at the beginning of d2 but you were very much around d1 when I was pushing Morrison. So why not call me out then? What's the difference between me going after you, satsu, and Morrison and Nightengale going after Morrison and CWE? I don't at all understand the last series of questions. I found all 3 of you scummy and I said as much
  74. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Because. Based on the info I have, I find it unlikely for him to be Unseen/Cult. Unlikely town based on his behavior. That leaves neutrals.
    I didn't much like listo muchd1 as all he did was mechanics talk. I think listo could be cult/unseen here but if he's to be believed then he has info that points to Jack being scum.
  75. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    3puppuies continues to be adorable
  76. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Rock Meets Hard Place coming in very early to suggest we won't get a yeet today really bugged me.
    not really sure why this bothered anyone. There are less than 24 hours and we can't even get a wagon on the pseudo guilty. There could certainly be an uptick in activity and we put together a lynch by the end of the day but I still feel like there hasn't been that much accomplished today, idk. So far my semi prediction seems to be coming true.
  77. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Jack, if not you today then who should we kill?
  78. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    FTR, when I suggested silence I wasn't referring to a specific role and just his general lack of thread presence. I think the husk thing is a bit out there and there are better explanations.
  79. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    I feel like Nightengale and I were on the same page yesterday but today we couldn't be more different. I am at a slight disadvantage as I don't know people normal play but there's no evidence to suggest that Morrison has been silenced today and I think Future is kinda scummy. Its like he's posting but he's just there...it seems very active lurk.
  80. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Rock going for the easy inactives.
    Why not call me out yesterday? Why are you and BN focusing on me going after inactive but not nightengale? Are you guys just scum that thinks I'll be an easier lynch than her? What is your read on Morrison?
  81. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Do you still think he's town?
  82. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    I just really don't get it. He's dying. Do you think he's lying about that? You said no, I think. Even if you think he's scum that's going to die there are still 6 other scum...why not go after them?

    but also says this isn't really your scum meta so eh
  83. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Hes usally more quiet as scum
    maybe but his vote is still really dumb
  84. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Vote: Listo95
  85. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    + its not like we can get anyone past 2 votes anyway
  86. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Who wants to lynch him?
    I assume the people voting him. It's such a throw away vote to vote someone that's gonna die
  87. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Why does claiming that he's bleeding make us want to lynch him? Unless he IS the fool and wants to be healed. He could be some other scum that's trying to pretend to be the fool so we don't lynch but he's bleeding to death so eh...listo's vote is pretty bad
  88. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Are these the roles that you guys normally use or are these specific to this game?
  89. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    but I don't think whether this is cult or unseen is an important question. Who is scummy and needs death is the only question that matters.
  90. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    Would be funny id Satsu is cult and he's trying yo convince us all that there's no way that cult could kill/be in this game
  91. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    but I don't think whether this is cult or unseen is an important question. Who is scummy and needs death is the only question that matters.
  92. R

    Mafia 5 - Throne of Destiny

    I read it as they start with but can gain more
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